2008-09-07T05:30:00-05:00 CryoNet http://www.cryonet.org/cryonet.xml http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/dsp.cgi?msg=30998 2008-08-28T17:17:39-0700

I like your Donation Mike, and I love your logic. Thank You Mike D. Live Long and Well X-Message-Number: 30953 From: HEYMIKE Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 14:26:10 EDT I guess I decided to help because if Robert Heinlein turned down a free suspension then I think Mr. O'Rights who . . .

http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/dsp.cgi?msg=30999 2008-08-28T19:02:44-0700

Warning for All Cryonicists David in Message Number: 30885 Wrote, "He just did not get *his* life insurance in place before he came down with a terminal illness and became unable to buy the insurance now.” David Wrote in Message-Number: 30946 "We have talked about William's mistakes in not getting . . .

http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/dsp.cgi?msg=31000 2008-08-28T20:29:29-0700

My Mom passed away last Saturday by all accounts in a peaceful manner, mostly due to the morphine she was on. Her death was expected, and of course I feel the loss, but there was an extra sense of a different kind of feeling. They had to arrange the funeral . . .

http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/dsp.cgi?msg=31001 2008-08-29T06:25:43-0700

Mind has requested that I post the following. I sent a message to cryonet about Paypal, explaining that the Institue has not had any trouble with Paypal and the IRS and we have been using it for over 6 years now, however, I must have done something wrong because it . . .

http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/dsp.cgi?msg=31002 2008-08-29T06:54:40-0700

Hello, all--I do want to be clear that it is up to the person who donates to the Immortality Institute Administered Pay Pal fund for William O'Rights (TheFirstImmortal), how they want their money to be used. One's donation can go to William's suspension, go back to them if he is . . .

http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/dsp.cgi?msg=31003 2008-08-29T14:46:14+0100

I think that there is still a way of writing insurance policies so that they cannot be drawn down if the insured is a victim of illness or litigation. It may not last for ever, but it is worth using if it is still there. Rudy Hoffman is on holiday . . .

http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/dsp.cgi?msg=31004 2008-08-29T08:51:41-0600

Content-Disposition: inline If you have an insurance policy, whether term or whole, which you are using or intend to use as funding for cryonics services, you can protect its value from predators by making the cryonics organization the owner, not just the beneficiary, of the policy. If your name stays . . .

http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/dsp.cgi?msg=31005 2008-08-29T14:01:19EDT

Content-Language: en In a message dated 8/29/08 2:06:05 AM, owner-cryonet writes: Mr. O'Rights brings up a strong point here... I hadn't even thought about it. I know that an insurance policy when paid cannot be used to settle debts on the estate as I understand it, so the beneficiaries would . . .

http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/dsp.cgi?msg=31006 2008-08-29T14:53:19-0400

Bill is right if one think about it. Life insurance premiums can become a big problem if you are chronically ill. Medical expenses can wipe your assets out in no time. Good private medical health insurance covers up to two million dollars. That will not last a year if you . . .

http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/dsp.cgi?msg=31007 2008-08-31T21:27:38+0200

Looks like this is one more argument for my proposal of prepaid collective coverage. Is there someone who can shake loose the money to try this, or do we have to see many more disasters and last minute fundraising efforts? dss David.Stodolsky Skype: davidstodolsky . . .

http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/dsp.cgi?msg=31008 2008-09-1T10:53:04+0100

What a ghastly expression - "shake loose the money". Why not use your own, it is your idea. If it is so marvellous borrow some from the regular channels. Who knows, you may end up "The Bill Gates of cryonics". If it would actually work, maybe one of the two . . .

http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/dsp.cgi?msg=31009 2008-09-1T06:43:39-0700

Dear Mr. O'Rights, I'm York Porter, the President of the Immortalist Society. Each time LongLife magazine comes out I try to do an article on the last page entitled "The Final Word". Attached should be this next issue's article which uses some of your writing (somewhat paraphrased) to try to . . .

http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/dsp.cgi?msg=31010 2008-09-1T09:54:59-0700

Hi Everyone: Stodolsky's warning is rendered moot by the very simple strategy of assigning ownership of the policy to the cryonic's organization. It is Alcor's policy to seek an ownership position, however they do not always require this. Once the policy is no longer "owned " by the member, it . . .

http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/dsp.cgi?msg=31011 2008-09-1T18:57:36-0700

To me this is a classic illustration of the general pattern whereby one person's problem or misfortune provokes a proposal to "collectivize" a system so that the misfortune can "never happen again." This is especially ironic since, as I understand it, William O'Rights is not the kind of guy who . . .

http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/dsp.cgi?msg=31012 2008-09-2T17:47:40-0700

The Venturists have set up a Google Checkout account for accepting donations for William O'Rights. Just go to the Venturists' website, http://www.venturist.org and use the button under the title "Bill O'Rights Support." If you don't have a Google/Gmail account, email me at markplus and I can send you a form . . .

http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/dsp.cgi?msg=31013 2008-09-3T10:58:20+0200

format=flowed; delsp=yes On 2 Sep 2008, at 11:00, John de Rivaz wrote: That is the point of the "current' benefits" mentioned. Then they would have to say the same about foundations/churches/etc. Since large incomes are typically taxed at a higher percentage, the reverse would be true. . . .

http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/dsp.cgi?msg=31014 2008-09-3T08:59:19-0700

Yesterday Mark Plus posted a message about the new Google Checkout system. It is similar to paypal only as far as I know Google has not had the trouble with the feds in handling money for 501c3 organizations and has not confiscated any of their money. So those who like . . .

http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/dsp.cgi?msg=31015 2008-09-4T12:33:10-0700

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=JlbjpmBFljo . . .

http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/dsp.cgi?msg=31016 2008-09-4T22:52:34-0700

On Thu, Sep 04, 2008 at 09:00:02AM -0000, CryoNet wrote: Just a heads-up that I submitted my contribution thru Paypal at the address given. No problem. Seemed to get thru via the gmail account given. Here's hoping that it helps Mr O'Right to suspension, and that in several score years . . .

http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/dsp.cgi?msg=31017 2008-09-5T06:51:39-0700

Thanks Gary, yeah--we'd all have a lot of fun if cryonics works ;-) ImmInst will get your donation to the Venturists, do you want it going to Marce, back to you, or to the general Venturist fund if William is unable to be preserved? Health, Happiness, Wisdom & Longevity :-) . . .

http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/dsp.cgi?msg=31018 2008-09-5T17:33:30EDT

Hello, Dear Cryoneters: This is Rudi Hoffman from Florida. Hope you are giving your life the maximum effort it deserves, and that your life is providing at least a reasonable amount of joy and satisfaction. It has been some time since I posted on Cryonet. I just returned from a . . .

http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/dsp.cgi?msg=31019 2008-09-6T12:58:17+1000

Sounds good to me. Content-Type: text/html; [ AUTOMATICALLY SKIPPING HTML ENCODING! ] . . .

http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/dsp.cgi?msg=31020 2008-09-6T06:39:58-0700

Hello Rudi, glad to see you back :-). Can you explain a bit more about Long Term Care Insurance? It is my understanding that this can also protect your assets and has been something I've been meaning to set up. Although my cryonics funding is fully funded by a whole . . .

http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/dsp.cgi?msg=31021 2008-09-6T09:08:42-0700

Most of your probably know by now that we are trying to help terminal cryonicist supporter William O'Rights to get suspended at his legal death. The William O'Rights fund is growing a little every day. Some of you probably would like to know more about Mr. O'Rights. Here is a . . .

http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/dsp.cgi?msg=31022 2008-09-6T20:53:17-0700

On Sat, Sep 06, 2008 at 09:00:04AM -0000, CryoNet wrote: Seriously, Shannon, barring some "Constitutional Legislation," or other such, I am > 90% certain reclaiming the suspended will be reality. Guessing sometime before 2050 will be the first successful tests of mammals. It it not only a common-sense issue, but . . .